Curse

Phoenix Arrows · Nov 22, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53

/notsigned

It's easier to get Survivor as a level 20 than as a level 1-19.

cR4zY-n^ · Nov 22, 2006, 02:28 PM // 14:28

/notsigned

It is more rare and respectfull this way. (No matter when frustrated people that don't have it say "they got it in this way or that way").

cR4zY-n^ · Nov 22, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31

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Originally Posted by Neon Ciaren

The Title says ( You will earn the title xxxx if you reach xxxx experience points without dying. Thus the title doesn't say that you can't have more then 1 death, meaning it should be possible to start over even if you've died. To accomplish 1,380,000 exp., so I beleive, to get legendary is hard enough for someone to get. I've died trying to get this title so many times my monk almost reached Indomitable and died from a boss in one hit in factions. Also once you've made it passed survivor and died you get an ugly none-filled title which can never be reached again.

I died with my warrior at 1,000,000 or so experience due to lag spikes and uploads before nightfall came out where my char stood there and the skills wouldn't work and nothing moved. I left the game immidiately with my physical resistance, watch yourself, dolyak on when farming a group of 3 spiders in the FoW and when I came back into the game *Never seeing my Char die* I had 1 Death on my char. I spent 2 months working that char up for nothing having 15k and the such. I also spent about 2 weeks on the support knowledge base to try to fix this and the only response the best thing they said to do was come to the forums and post a reply about this.

Thus this is A GREAT IDEA, I honestly love it I'll actually be able to attempt the title over again and once again use my char which I haven't touched for 3 months sense this insodent.

/signed

My warr has Legendary Survivor, but my monk died at 1.2 mill in troll cave by lag aswell (with crapload of elites capped and quests and missions passed).

Tough luck, no reason to call for a title update tho.

I also couldn't care less about thing that I will not be able to get Defender of Ascalon ever. 'Cos Survivor and Defender of Asc is not possible to get both afaik, and Survivor > defender. :P

Mr. E. Mustard · Nov 22, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

if you want the title, work for it. i had 3 chars before the title came out and yeah, i want them to have survivor, but they can't, yeah, gets me mad. but i made another char and worked to get survivor, i almost got it but i died. so i'm trying again. if the rest of us who really want to get survivor are willing to make new chars or restart old ones why can't you? if you really want it, work for it, do the missions, go everywhere, get all the xp you can get. then the title will be worht it. if you want the title just to show off, then you don't deserve it. start from lvl 0 like everyone else and when you finally get the title, you know you earned it.

Rehnahvah Gahro · Nov 25, 2006, 08:42 PM // 20:42

Everyone who says that the hard part is to get to Lvl 20: think again!

If you start in Cantha (what I did with my Rit) you get to Lvl 20 in no time. Seriously: It was a piece of cake, a walk in the park.

The hard part is from 140.600 xp to 1.337.500 xp. THAT is the hard part, because if you die due to a lag at 900.000 xp, believe me you get F****** frustrated.

In fact it would be MUCH harder for my Nekro to get 1.337.500 xp in ONE ROW, because I have done EVERY.SINGLE.QUEST in Tyria, Cantha and Elona.

Besides, if you have 60 Armor (or 80) it doesn't matter if you're Level 15 or Level 20, you have just a little less Health points (I went with a +60 Health Staff)

I can understand if the title would be left unchanged, but those who say that it would be easier for a Lvl 20 Char (who will have done most the Quests probably!) to get the needed xp didn't think enough.

For those who still don't get it: We are not talking about 140.600 Experience points, we're talking about OneMILLIONThreehundredTHOUSANDfivehundred xp!!!

Shadowspawn X · Nov 25, 2006, 09:17 PM // 21:17

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I had two old toons a ranger and mesmer, 12.8 million on the ranger and 11.4 million on the mesmer I would have loved to get the title for them, but its for new characters nothing hard to understand about that. I had to start a ritualist to get the title. It took me 8 trys to get legendary survivior basically all of the factions campiagn. I wouldn't have it any other way. Same things going to be true with "defender of ascalon" you just cant have everything all the time. To contiually ask Anet to change the game to suite your specific situation is unreasonable. Also not fair to those who instead of crying bit the bullet and did start anew and achieved their title.

wetsparks · Dec 09, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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totally agree with shadowspawn, got to make choices in life and things dont turn out they way you want them, why should GW be any different?

Kelsey Cain · Dec 09, 2006, 09:52 PM // 21:52

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I have always thought of not dying as an important part of any game and as such, because I generally always try to avoid unecessay deaths, several of my oldest characters already had 0 deaths when the survivor title was introduced.

Franco Power · Dec 10, 2006, 01:21 AM // 01:21

lol to be honest here I doubt Anet will do this and cares about your kind of a big deal title

hey my warrior has fow armor, and many perfect weapons too, i dont play it because i hate his name/face, cant do anything bout it. Imo, if you want legendary start a new character, i mean you already got so many titles to show on that one anyway.

Im Perfect U Aint · Dec 11, 2006, 04:48 AM // 04:48

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Originally Posted by PanGammon

/notsigned

its a nightmare to get for a reason. Those legendary survivors you see out there, you know they worked hard for it...........

not all worked hard for it..ive had friends manage to get to lutgardis and ran the door for the 2k exp redoable quest till they got the legendary...close to a dozen friends of mine have dun it...id do it if i didnt hate factions :P /notsigned on the death reset thing..../signed and /unsigned i think that u should b allowed to go to first title in between deaths but no farther..if anything at all..wich i no sounds stupid to

Navaros · Dec 11, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38

The idea in this thread has been suggested at least five times before in distinct older threads. It started ever since the Survivor title was first implemented in the horribly botched way where old characters can't get it, and it keeps cropping up time and time again.

No doubt it will continue to crop up until Anet fixes the problem.

Fix it please.

/signed

Geckoo · Jan 29, 2007, 02:06 PM // 14:06

i was going to open a new thread but i saw this one... and is just what i was going to post, so...

/signed

Now, for those who say that the legendary survivor is a hard work... think about the hard work if you can't gain experience from quests, elite skills cap... if they 'fix' the title so you can obtain it even if you have 1000 deaths, then the real hard work will be for a old character, with the 3 campagins completed, with lots of elite skills... that's hard work.

My personal experience is that i've tried it twice, and both times i got killed without noticing it... by a heavy lag... the first one had 1M xp, the second one had 600k xp, and actually has 900k and stills with 1 death... i won't stop in my purpose... and if i can, when i reach 1.937.500 (1.337.500+600.000), i will come here and i will ask... i've earned 1.337.500 xp without dying... i am a legendary survivor but without a title... ¿will you recognise my hard work?

Aeon_Xin · Jan 29, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48

/unsigned with authority!!!!!!!!!

The purpose of survivor is to get to 20 without death.

IF it were changed, you could get to lvl 20 and get mad skills/elites, then go kill level 15 mobs safely all day long and get the title easily.
It would belittle those characters that have the title and the talent to get it.

AS far as the people who buy the title with powerlevelers, well I don't see a problem with that, because well, nothing can be done about it. Wanna buy it? earn the dough. You remind me of people that want to get the spiked eggnogg for next to free from other players(typically uninformed noobs), and yell at people selling them for a fair market value.

MegaMouse · Jan 29, 2007, 03:49 PM // 15:49

/NOTSIGNED

The title was meant for those who have the patience or guts to not die. I have several characters coming up on 2 years old now and even then I do not believe it would be fair to give them a title that they did not earn outright. The way the survivor title is now is fine to me. Gives me something to do while waiting for the next chapter.

Mega Mouse

xxSilhouette · Jan 29, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52

signed in the sense that I would love for my tyrian characters to have a shot at this but not signed for the idea, I think they should do something for like survior for tyrian characters, but im not crazy about that idea.

Deagol · Jan 29, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

/notsigned

It would ruin the whole point of the title.

stuntharley · Jan 29, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48

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I also have an old tyrian char, but I don't agree with this. If you want it you can make a new or different character IMHO.

Yu Yevon · Jan 29, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28

/notsigned.

The point of the title is to not die period. I too have old Tryian characters I wish I could get the title on but the title is called Survivor not Die and and get another chance. I started my warrior over for the solo purpose of this title(1.037mil) and I'm finding it alot of fun to just take your time and just use your head. I have yet to leave a party or cower behind the group.

If old characters get a second chance most likely they will solo farm the entire title just for KoaBD. This is a title, a vanity, it doesn't hinder your gameplay or anything. For those using the arguement for Tryia characters about not knowing, why didn't you TRY to stay alive? It isn't called Death Wars. In games that I play I actually strive to stay alive and not kill myself.

In real life do you get two chances to live? I think not.

This title isn't that hard to begin with and doing this will make it even easier so again, /notsigned.

Geckoo · Jan 30, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17

so... if you begin a new char you have the right to earn 1.337.500xp without dying and you'll have a title recognising it, after you get the title you can die 1000 times if you want. But if you have 1000 deaths and you decide in that point to be 1337.500xp without dying you don't have the right to have your hard work recognised?

I really don't undestand your point of view, i respect it of course, but i can't understand how you don't see something so obvious. From that point of view, even if you reach a survivor rank, when you die the title should dissapear, it has no sense, you are no longer a survivor... ><

I thought the whole point of the title was survive... earn 140.600, 586.500, 1.337.500xp without dying. I ask my self if the real problem for all of you is the first rank, that actually is 'reach lvl20'... the first rank can be obtained in very easy ways, so forget it, i'm talking about higher ranks.

1.337.500xp without deaths + 1000 deaths = legendary survivor
1000 deaths + 1.337.500xp without deaths = nothing
When they are really the same, the same hard work, even more in the second option (i repeat: no quests rewards, no mission rewards, no all elites to cap).

Kid Divinity · Jan 30, 2007, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Having to choose to start over from scratch, after failure, is part of the fun/torture that gets you the title. You get more drive out of knowing that you will have to start over if you die. Resetting the counter doesnt really do that. If you can just reset the counter and keep going, there is no point. Nothing is lost.

I do think they shouldve made an allowance for pre-Factions toons, but they didn't. So, I just made new one (you have 4 new profs to choose from since the inception of the title), tried, failed (in prophets path... I suck), tried again and got rank 3.

Just start one up, take it slow and then go capping like mad when you're out off your resepctive starter zone. The extra elites make for some crazy, deadly, hero builds.

DoubleXP weekends are your friend.